Fair’s Fair …

So if the US State Department thinks of the Lebanese government as “the crying game,” does that mean Lebanon can consider the government of the United States to be “the lying game.”

Sounds fair enough, right?

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13 thoughts on “Fair’s Fair …

  1. in response to Bech’s post as well, the Lebanese government stops the ‘crying games’ when the ‘militia’ bachir for example turns into an honest ‘stateman’ bachir and for the sake of existing tries to establish unity idependently of external influences irrespective of their ‘lying games’.
    then they kill him.

    mama said, “as shoking as this might seem to people, i see nasrallah as another bachir.. not the israel proxy bachir..the lebanon first bachir.. for they both have genuine visions to the country. bachir felt strongly against the PLO and nasrallah feels strongly for the palestinians. each in his own way is an emerging force that made unilateral decisions. both want what’s best for lebanon.”

  2. I was arguing with bech in another medium that Hizbullah is also a product of foreign intervention … Not in the mindless, inaccurate sense that HIZB is a Syrian/Iranian proxy, but in the sense that HIZB’s political and organizational power (its strength among Shia) is the result of the Israeli occupation of Lebanon and the sort of de facto federalization (this is not a word) of Lebanon — the south and the rest.

    Of course, the same could be said of Bashir Gemayel or Aoun. I would not put Hariri in this category, because he is unlike any other political animal Lebanon has ever known [See this post and discussion between bech and anon (me) about Hariri : http://remarkze.blogspot.com/2005/08/power-shifts-in-lebanon.html%5D in that he could literally purchase his ascendancy among sunnis and beyond …

    Of course, what I am saying here is that one has to move beyond the conventional understanding of foreign intervention to think about it more in terms of a structural reality than a political act. The historical reality of course being the Arab-Israeli conflict and the political act being taking sides. For Hariri it is a different regional historical reality (the rise of petro dollar market) and political act (Saudi dollars).

    I dont think I am offering anything particularly novel here so I will stop soon, but Lebanon’s fate is tied to Palestine and will be until a regional solution is achieved. And no amount of Saudi money and/or American political pressure (March 14) can make Lebanon whole without such a regional solution. Until such time, we will unfortunately see repeats of the rise and falls of Bashirs, Aouns, Hizbs and Hariris …

    Also, hayeti, it is haram to ask certain crazy people questions FROM MY WEB SITE, especially if they are likely to respond … 😉

  3. “Until such time, we will unfortunately see repeats of the rise and falls of Bashirs, Aouns, Hizbs and Hariris …”
    absolutely hits to the heart of it. i’ll go back and read bech’s post and the comments later, on first look it’s so funny that you were anonymous and you actually defended it 🙂

    i’m going out tonight.. for the first time in this war but again mama said, “you have to repsect your body and health and well being to stay strong” so i don’t feel so guilty about having some fun with some friends..so i’ll read it later tonight

    and yeah, sorry for attracting the crazies..i still have to check out her site..

    you actually have a syrian accent in arabic 😛

    yalla later

  4. It’s just an affectation to strengthen my bona fides as an Arab nationalist … I also say tomato like a Palestinian 😉

    Yalla, have fun … you deserve it … d

  5. ok and as for the post..

    i would avoid games and get down to business..

    the biggest problem with external focus is that it causes the person to forget his own tasks and homework and project concern elsewhere..

    one of the greatest benefits of israeli fortress mentality is that – while we ignore the world ruthlessly half the time – we do focus a lot on how to keep afloat and have as a result generated some amazing prosperity based on very limited resources..

    i do not advocate ignoring the world.. and i strengthen the voices of my friends here that push for a more outward looking view.. but i do believe that empowering yourself to take responsibility for your destiny is a major ingredient in resilience and restitution..

    the lebanese deserve better than games

    lirun
    telaviv
    http://www.emspeace.blogspot.com
    we all do 😉

  6. Also, hayeti, it is haram to ask certain crazy people questions FROM MY WEB SITE, especially if they are likely to respond … 😉

    and yeah, sorry for attracting the crazies..i still have to check out her site..
    ~~~~

    crazy, because i have a different opionion…or idea.

    It saids a great a deal about both of your charachters.

    peace
    E

  7. To both of you,

    thanks your apolgy it is totally accepted…

    I too apolgize for numourous times I rolled my eyes while reading you Red..that is your new nick name “apokraphyte”.

    I did by the way ask a Professor friend of mine in the Evege biz who is a mentor friend. I asked him about your book recomendation’s he pretty much shot it down, as a waste of my reading time!

    He said perhaps a seed of truth but pretty much a conspiracy theorist..yada, yada….which only puts a thorn in me to find out what it is all about =)LOL..so I will get it.

    besides, I long to be illuminated.

    take care and peace!
    E

  8. PS…Oh yeah Red…I know some good rehab’s when you are ready to just say No to the crack..

    Infact I might be able to get you a scholorshiped…

    sorry, I could not resist…
    ;)!!!LOL
    later
    E

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