Lebanese Forces leaking info to Israelis

I have it from a very reliable source in the highest echelons of the Lebanese army that the military just caught 20 Lebanese Force (LF) members supplying intelligence information to the Israelis. LF minister of tourism Joseph Sarkis is trying to get them out according to the source, but the army does not want to hear anything.

This information may have made it to the local news but I doubt. Please provide the appropriate if you find anything on it.

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14 thoughts on “Lebanese Forces leaking info to Israelis

  1. Golden rules:

    1- Hezbollah never ever destroyed anything in Lebanon contrary to most of Lebanese armed groups
    2- Israel is destroying in Lebanon.
    3- The LF should not do that because they are helping Israel destroy things in Lebanon
    4- Ultimately, they shouldn’t because all hell can break loose, whereas until now the conflict was narrowed between only two parties

  2. Golden rules:

    1.1 The HEZB fought like all others (it fought the Syrians and Amal) So I doubt all their bullets hit only armored vehicles

    1.2 The HEZB, correct if I am misteken, destroyed foreign embassies in Lebanon in the 80s. I call that destruction IN Lebanon.

    1.3 Many war files have not been open and will not be as long as as the only armed group in Lebanon.

    1.4 The HEZB (Iam not sure of that) with the help of the Syrians monopolized by force the fighting in the South hurting and weakning the communist resistance.

    2. Israel is reacting to the HEZB. The HEZB could stop it now by giving up the soldiers. Until then Leabnon will be destoyed. Or, the HEZB is an active causal player in the destruction of Lebanon.

    3. Arguments invalid. (cf. my point 2)

    4. All hell has broken loose already my love. All the Lebanese are affected and this is not only a war between two parties as you and others want us to believe.

  3. 1.1 The HEZB fought like all others (it fought the Syrians and Amal) So I doubt all their bullets hit only armored vehicles.

    Bechir’s point was that they did not attack Lebanese parties. However, it is true that HIZB was briefly involved with skirmishes with Amal during the “war of the camps.” Outside of that, I believe he is correct.

    1.2 The HEZB, correct if I am misteken, destroyed foreign embassies in Lebanon in the 80s. I call that destruction IN Lebanon.

    Fighting foreign parties actively engaged in the civil war hardly seems a taint. I assume you are speaking of US and French targets, but even there we have yet to see evidence…

    1.3 Many war files have not been open and will not be as long as as the only armed group in Lebanon.

    I agree many files have not been open, but I am quite certain it is not HIZB that worries about the fall-out from such a historical disclosure.

    1.4 The HEZB (Iam not sure of that) with the help of the Syrians monopolized by force the fighting in the South hurting and weakning the communist resistance.

    This is somewhat true, but not in the sense that HIZB attacked the leftist guerrillas, more in the sense that we have seen in the last few years where HIZB will intercept Palestinian militants attempting to fire on Israel. Basically, the leftists had very little support from southerners because they were often not from the South, so as HIZB emerged, it pushed them out, more politically than militarily… and a lot of that has more to do with the collapse of the Left in general in the area and the nastiness of the Bathists toward the Communists …

    2. Israel is reacting to the HEZB. The HEZB could stop it now by giving up the soldiers. Until then Leabnon will be destoyed. Or, the HEZB is an active causal player in the destruction of Lebanon.

    The IDF has already said this is not about the soldiers and you can now read how this plan has been in place for many years.

    3. Arguments invalid. (cf. my point 2)

    This is a quite serious point, and will be addressed in a full post.

    4. All hell has broken loose already my love. All the Lebanese are affected and this is not only a war between two parties as you and others want us to believe.

    Sadly, no. There is more to come and as this is also important, it will be addressed in a full post..

    Thanks for your comments, they are appreciated…

  4. By the way, Ramzi, just for dialogue’s sake, I sympathize with your position and recognize some of its merit, I just don’t think it is the correct one …

  5. 1.1 The HEZB fought like all others (it fought the Syrians and Amal) So I doubt all their bullets hit only armored vehicles.

    Ok so syrians are not lebanese. As for Amal; they only answered to provocations. see Hezb was a rising star and Amal did not like that and they tried to weaken them. plus; this is minor, as for the longest part of the civil war raging between lebanese parties, Hezb was only fighting Israel

    as for the rest i agree with apocraphyte. The LF question will be addressed soon.

  6. I disagree with Bech slightly here in that i think it is okay to say that HIZB fought with Amal, but it was a very short engagement and was resolved and had more the flavor of a local dispute between neighbors rather than having regional or geopolitical implications … and we should not be saying who was at fault …

  7. Honestly, this is nonsense.
    I dont see any reference to your claims on LFers leaking information but let us suppose this is true.
    What possible information do the LF possess concerning Hizbullah ?? they r a political party with most members in Christian regions, how would they know anything about Hizbullah ??

    Pure Nonsense.

  8. for the reference please read the post again.
    as for what possible information the LF possess, well they live on Lebanese territory and may gather more just from eyesight than Israelis. also, they can just what any spy would do. spy on people.
    In any case, I’m just reporting what I have heard from my source. I can guarantee its veracity but I know that this guy is really trustworthy.

  9. I hope your trustworthy source isn’t Assem Kanso or some Nasser Kandil (admit that you have a nostalgia regarding those folks). But regarding the stupidity of the reported statement, nothing would surprise me.
    P.S: I’ve seen two guns at the Gemayel’s home in Bickfaya. I think that they are mounting a militia to sinonize the country once the full moon is reached…Prepare yourself to defend the land béchir…

  10. Something else, I you find it so normal to kindnap two soliders for exchange purposes, I would suggest to use the same method to get back all our prisonners in Syria. Or do you think, like Bolton, that there is no moral equivalence between those two categories of POW? I will use my links with the christian fascist right wingers to suggest that as it seems, according to your precious intelligence sources, that they are well armed and prepared for the operation. I remind you in case you have forgotten that 50 to 100 lebanese lies in syrian jails. Syria always denied having them but relased a few years ago a couple of hundred lebanese that even our government presumed to be dead. Just a quick thing also: do you know hwo are the hostages we are destroying lebanon for? One of them, Nasim Nesser have the israeli citizenship and would not be handed back to Lebanon and the other, Samir kuntar, may be a hero but he neverless butchered a civilian man and his 4 years old daughter back in 1978. hezbollah consider this a heroic act, because their moral equivalence doesen’t apply to sionist citizens. Please understand that i cannot abide to this logic. I consider Kuntar to be an assassin, even if it was for the “right” cause.

  11. I hope your trustworthy source isn’t Assem Kanso or some Nasser Kandil (admit that you have a nostalgia regarding those folks). But regarding the stupidity of the reported statement, nothing would surprise me.

    Of course albert that it is not from these propagandist that I take the information. It is someone highly ranked in the army. can’t tell who. but the movement of Sarkis are obvious. so it’s a true information.
    Now it may be a separate incident as I said and then would be perfect habibi.

    But what if it’s not what if it spills over? have you seen what’s going on in druze and sunni areas? anything can be possible.

    It is your stress that such information are always “stupid” that I find suspicious. and you call me ideological..

    AS for the Syrian prisoners. well hell yeah we should negotiate for them. tell me what to do. There should be action done in this regard. taking prisoners would not be strategically interesting i presume, but maybe other things can be done.

    The reason why hezbollah took prisoners is because they know things can work this way, as it has already before.

    I do agree with you that samir kantar is an assassin along with probably all of the other dudes. But this begs the question of taking prisoners. The prisoner’s issue is one of many other point of contention between hezbollah and israel. But you’re definitely right on this point. Also, there are other prisoners too (not only two), can get you the names.

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